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Hey everyone! I am currently replacing my timing chain with a comp cam double roller chain, in the process im also installing a gmb performance waterpump, and a jet 180 degree thermostat.

My problem is, do I really have to remove my a/c and alternator bracket to pull the timing cover?!?! I already have it unbolted but now my a/c lines are in the way! And now im just thinking about pulling the a/c off completely! ( i dont use it) Any help would be great!! Thanks.

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if anybody has the knowlege on this subject ? please reply i am replacing the timing chain on mine .But the guy that was doing my truck did take remove the compressor and the alternator but my only issue is he did not finish the truck now i am stuck he got everything took apart radiator ,water pump alt compressor he got to the harmonic balancer.Now this guy that is old school and his sons have it and they said they can put it together for me .im just here asking for any pointers that someone who has done this before may be willing to give me thank you all and have a blessed day,also the guy who started said my truck skipped timing and anything else on that would be helpfull its 1993 v6 2wd dakota
 

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if anybody has the knowlege on this subject ? please reply i am replacing the timing chain on mine .But the guy that was doing my truck did take remove the compressor and the alternator but my only issue is he did not finish the truck
That is a bad situation to be in.:( Usually you want the same person that took it apart and (hopefully) categorized the nuts, bolts and fastners to be able
to finish the job. :rolleyes:

now i am stuck he got everything took apart radiator ,water pump alt compressor he got to the harmonic balancer.
It would seem that this is a repair job gone wrong and now it will cost you
plenty to get it repaired properly by a qualified mechanic at a garage.
Hopefully, the guy that took it apart, catagorized and layed out the nuts,
bolts and fasteners, because if those are lost..well lets just say, you
may be in a heap of trouble to get the job finished.

Now this guy that is old school and his sons have it and they said they can put it together for me .im just here asking for any pointers that someone who has done this before may be willing to give me thank you all and have a blessed day,also the guy who started said my truck skipped timing and anything else on that would be helpfull its 1993 v6 2wd dakota
First of all, replacing a timing chain and it's gear set is a fairly involved procedure and not something that untrained novices should tackle without
some training by a mechanic at least.

You WILL need a Dodge shop manual or failing that at least a Haynes manual for the year of your truck as getting the timing marks on the gears is critical
in order for it to start.

If the timing marks are off..it will not start and you will have wasted all that effort and water pump gaskets etc, to put it together..only to find out that it won't start.

At that point you will have no choice, but to take it apart again and start all over..so, IF you have never done this before, it is not a wise idea to tackle it without prior experience, and some expertise helping you
or attempting it without a "how to" manual.

"Skipping timing", I guess would mean that the original timing gear and gear
teeth were so badly worn that the valve timing was way off? ..or in worse
case, the worn timing chain jumped a cog on either the camshaft or
crankshaft gear (sprocket).

You WILL have to know when #1 piston is at TDC (top dead center) of it's
compression stroke when the injector pulses and the spark occurs.
For every revolution of the crankshaft there are 4 piston strokes or cycles:
1. Intake. (down stroke)
2. Compression (up stroke)
3. Power (down stroke)
4 Exhaust. (up stroke)

For every 360 degree revolution of the crankshaft, there are TWO revolutions
of the camshaft and you need to find:

1. TDC on #1 piston first
2. Camshaft position for #1 cylinder where both the intake and exhaust
valve are closed

Then the timing marks can be aligned with the camshaft and crankshaft
with the chain on the both gears and the timing mark on the camshaft
gear on the correct place in relation to TDC on #1 piston..

Ok, here is a good tutorial (with some pictures)on what needs to be done by a very knowledgeable mechanic.

Note: you don't have to use a degree wheel unless you are going for optimum performance, but at least this procedure will show you how involved the getting the timing right can be after replacing the chain.

http://www.dodgedakotas.com/articles/timingchain/
 

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ok so the guy that is putting it back together he has done a couple of these and when he took the timing chain cover off he seen where it was still in time both marks were in line with each other on tdc and everything according to him and atleast i trust this guy more than the guy who screwed me.now he is concerned because when he pulled the plate off the cover there was a gasket close to the oil pan and there was a thick gasket that came off that we cant get unless guetting the whole oil pan gasket now.so we are hoping that we dont have to go crazy just to get this oil pan gasket on . sunday me and him will put it on thanks for the link you guys are the best that will help me tremendously .now if it looks like it did not jump timing i still went ahead and replace the chain while i was in there and now its back where the marks need to be i guess ill have to go by what the links say do.yall cross your fingers or pray for me cuz i need my truck and i will keep yall posted on whatever happens thank you all and God bless
 

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we put the truck together and know after we made sure every nut and bolt was correct it still does not receive any fire it cranks but no fire .ok ...so im so frustated with this just gonna take to specialist just whenever i get the money so thank you everybody for your help.and GOD BLESS YOU ALLL !!! HE IS COMING SOON TOO!!!
 
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